Google Chrome

[Luzinda]

http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/images/logo_sm.jpg
http://www.google.com/chrome

Who's tried it and what's your experiences ?

[Felkin]

I tried it, it's small and fast.
But it also doesn't display all pages correctly (yet).
Also, I'm used to extra functionality in Firefox, either by installing addons or basic FF functionality, so GC is lacking a lot.
On the other hand, that's what makes this browser so fast...
I used it once, and when I found out certain dropdown menu's weren't visible or only half visible, I turned back to using FF again.

[Kaira]

I use igoogle ... pretty mutch the same... but t have the local weather and some other handy things , and u can add loads of stuff u prefer for ureself

[Garek]

igoogle isnt really the same. Igoogle still uses IE, Chrome is more of a stripped down front end for IE.

[Kaira]

ok :P

[warlockair]

I just use IE and am happy with it. its fast enough when you just use google as standard search machine

[Aever]

Opera (http://www.opera.com/download), you can thank me later.

[Kahlo]

http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/images/logo_sm.jpg
http://www.google.com/chrome

Who's tried it and what's your experiences ?

This is in the EULA:


By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

Internet Explorer yes please.

[Aever]

This is in the EULA:

.....

Internet Explorer yes please.

I'm sorry, but IE can best be described as a security hazzard. I'd rather be using a "browser" made by a chinese gold selling site, installed in wow folder, than IE. Opera or Mozila are two very good browsers. Which one of them to use is up to everyone to decide, both are rich in features - u need to decide which one you like best. Chose one, but stay away from IE.

[Kahlo]

I've never had any security problems with Internet Explorer, so I really don't get why people consider Firefox to be better, as I've tried it, and really did NOT like it at all.

Edit: As long as the user isn't retarded, you won't have any viruses at all.

[warlockair]

http://www.zibb.nl/10235969/ICT/ICT-nieuws/ICT-nieuwsbericht/Nieuwe-browser-Google-onveilig.htm?nb=zibb_ict&editie=04%20september%202008&link=Nieuwe%20browser%20Google%20onveilig&WT.mc_id=mail_zibb_ict_04%20september%202008

Sorry its in dutch, They already found a security leak in Google webbrowser

[Luzinda]

it's a beta, don't make me link the security holes in IE :D

[Hapchu]

As long as the user isn't retarded, you won't have any viruses at all.

Most of the IE users are "retarded" :) It's not their fault, is the lack of knowledge in the IT domain . Most of the "non-retarded" ones already migrated to other browsers: FF/Opera/Safari. Still, 70% of all users use IE.

The fact that you have IT knowledge doesn't mean everyone has. The common user will click on stuff without knowing what it can happen.

[Robje]

I just use google, hmmmkay?

[Aever]

It's not about clicking where you aren't supposed to. Apart from downloading an executable and running it, your browser should be able to protect you. There are so many security exploits in IE that I really think that doesn't happen.

To be fair I have to say that probably there are so many exploits found in IE b/c it it used by such a large % of the users. I mean, if I want to make a site that wants to harm users I'd probably try to find an exploit in the browser most of them use, not in Opera or Mozila, which have a much smaller usage. I'm prety sure that if the cracking comunity would turn their eyes on the the smaller browsers bugs and exploits would start to surface. Just as many as in IE? I doubt it.

Security apart, IE feels like a driving a 20 yo car. There are so many "small things" that all the other browsers have and IE doesn't (lol, they just figured out in the last version how not to fill my taskbar with icons - something all the other browsers do since the 90s. how lame is that?) . And it is those small things that really make your browsing better or faster, whatever u need more.

[Felkin]

igoogle isnt really the same. Igoogle still uses IE, Chrome is more of a stripped down front end for IE.

Wrong, Google built this browser from scratch and they used Apple's WebKit (http://webkit.org/) as development tool.


This is in the EULA:

By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

Internet Explorer yes please.

This part has already been removed from the EULA.

[warlockair]

it's a beta, don't make me link the security holes in IE :D

we dont talk about IE do we ? read the first question

[Garek]

Wrong, Google built this browser from scratch and they used Apple's WebKit (http://webkit.org/) as development tool.

I never said it wasnt built. Just describing the difference between igoogle and chrome in quick and easy way, and chrome still uses windows network section for internet, doesnt include its own like Firefox etc.

[Luzinda]

we dont talk about IE do we ? read the first question

omg... Are you on drugs or? Please pass whatever you're on :P

[Felkin]

I never said it wasnt built. Just describing the difference between igoogle and chrome in quick and easy way, and chrome still uses windows network section for internet, doesnt include its own like Firefox etc.

What are you talking about Garek? :P

Google Chrome is completely independent from IE, it's not just a shell around the same engine.
Every app in Windows uses Windows network components to connect to whatever they want to connect to, you're not making any sense :P
Firefox doesn't have its own TCP/IP stack/drivers/software either, it uses Windows network TCP/IP, just like everything else.

[Garek]

Firefox proxies etc are seperate to the windows one. IE and Google chrome share.

[Felkin]

True, but that's just a registry setting, it's the most obvious place to set up a proxy and it allows the browser to stay as small as possible ;)

[Nakoda]

felkin, you know far to much on this....stop it! :D

i see no problem with IE either tbh :P just get a virus killing program if you're that bothered.. :)

[Robje]

felkin, you know far to much on this....stop it! :D

i see no problem with IE either tbh :P just get a virus killing program if you're that bothered.. :)

agreed with the 1st part...

but IE sucks imo... my msn still uses IE to open hotmail on and it keeps giving retarded popups with virusses etc.... FF > IE :)

[Morgandor]

1. Chrome is NOT faster than FF (especialy 3.1-pre1). Its only faster in Google's own javascript benchmark. This has been proven.

2. Chrome uses a unique id number and sends back every url visited plus other data together with that uid to google. Privacy ftl. This can be disabled via some file-attribute changes and editing tho.

Still - I cant understand all the hype around chrome. Its a lousy alpha-state browser that sneaks into your privacy - useless crap imho.

Nothing beats Firefox with addons to fit your needs.

[Hapchu]

1. Chrome is NOT faster than FF (especialy 3.1-pre1). Its only faster in Google's own javascript benchmark. This has been proven.

You know Morg, I do respect your opinion when it comes to tech stuff :D yet I did some tests a few minutes ago about JS engine speed, Chrome vs FF 3.
I ran the tests using John Resig's ( jquery's father :) ) Dromaeo JS speed benchmark (http://dromaeo.com). The benchmark was created a while ago, before anyone heard of Chrome. Check out the image below with the test results.

Q.E.D

PS. I'm not suggesting here that Chrome is perfect, its not even close to FF when it comes to capabilities, but for something v #0.2 beta, it's damn fast and capable.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9509/jsbenchmarkal4.th.gif (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jsbenchmarkal4.gif)

[Putin]

Stuff...
:WTF:

How is this even possible?

Still, my main concern with Chrome is the privacy thing.

[Morgandor]

Well - it all depends on the used Benchmark - here some tests a big german it-news site did:

http://scr3.golem.de/screenshots/0809/Firefox_TraceMonkey/bench_V8-TM2.png
http://scr3.golem.de/screenshots/0809/Firefox_TraceMonkey/bench_drom-TM2.png
http://scr3.golem.de/screenshots/0809/Firefox_TraceMonkey/bench_sunspider-TM2.png

One shouldnt look on the V8 Benchmark - it's Google's own and Chrome has been specificaly designed for that thingy.

Besides the numbers - Chrome "buys" it's speed with a lack of features FF has (note that above tests were done using 3.1b1 nightly)

[Hapchu]

Besides the fact that i know nothing German and all i understood is "besser" from the text below the graphs, as i see from those tests, clearly beats FF.

Yet again, like i said, I've been using FF since .. it appeared :). Nevertheless, i think chrome shows real potential and use it daily :).

I tend to let my laptop on standby and restart it .. rarely.
One day i checked the memory usage using "about:memory":
After 400+ tabs opened in chrome and only 9 active at the moment of check, it was using like 120MB memory. FF, with only 4 tabs opened, it was already using 180MB. And I open FF once in a while so its tab count < 20.
This isn't very relevant, still...

[Putin]

After 400+ tabs opened in chrome and only 9 active at the moment of check, it was using like 120MB memory. FF, with only 4 tabs opened, it was already using 180MB. And I open FF once in a while so its tab count < 20.
This isn't very relevant, still...
You are right. It isn't relevant. How much memory do you have available? Do you prefer it to be left unused?

[Felkin]

You are right. It isn't relevant. How much memory do you have available? Do you prefer it to be left unused?

Actually, it is relevant.

It's called proper coding... The problem with the amounts of memory these days is that coders tend to slack up and fail to produce optimal code.
Because "hey, we've got enough memory to work with!".