Arena season 4 announced [Archive] - Dragon Legion

Serv

11th June 2008, 10:21

Hey all,

Just some info for the pvp junkies. Season 4 is coming in 2 weeks!

We’re currently planning to end the third Arena season and begin Arena Season 4 on June 25, 2008. This exciting Arena season will introduce the Brutal Gladiator set, and will also allow players to purchase Arena Season 2 items using the honor system. Please note that we will be resetting all Arena team and personal ratings. Players will still retain their Arena points and teams with this reset. The team and personal rating will simply be reset to the default 1500, allowing all teams to once again compete for top honors with a fresh start. Also, with the end of the third season, players on the top teams from each battlegroup will receive their end-of-season rewards. These include Arena-specific titles that they can display proudly until the end of the new season, and, for the best of the best, an Armored Nether Drake. Please also be aware that with the end of the current season, all previous end-of-season titles will be removed.

Robje

11th June 2008, 10:35

finally

Asquad

11th June 2008, 12:53

got 1500 points :D

Aever

11th June 2008, 13:40

They finally painted those pillars in new colors?

Pintea

11th June 2008, 16:20

2 weeks means that we can hit 5k Rob:D (just in time)

Robje

11th June 2008, 19:33

exactly pintea, and hopefully get some title

Hinana

12th June 2008, 07:31

Stupid that you need arena rating for bracer/rings/neck and all that crap .. except belt and some other shit

Pintea

12th June 2008, 08:17

Well depends how easy it is to get 1800 rating tbh. If you can do that in a day like Rob then it doesnt suck so much:D

Nakoda

12th June 2008, 12:44

i don't think it's stupid at all. it drives me crazy seeing ppl with 1100 rated teams in nrly full vengeful and full vindicator -.-, people that can't play shouldn't deserve to get rewarded.

Robje

12th June 2008, 13:48

true that, 1100 rating is just epic fail :D

Frunhilda

12th June 2008, 21:14

Holy, please crawl to da computer so we can leech for 2 more weeks, thx.

Nakoda

12th June 2008, 22:04

holy, you wanna do 2v2 with an enhance shammy in S4? 2 reasons...1) it'll be fun...2) looks like frun wants you

Frunhilda

13th June 2008, 06:11

FO nakoda.

Go beg in BA.

Serv

25th June 2008, 12:22

I guess i'll have to wait on my rogue :P I couldn't find the npc's :ashamed2:

Tee

25th June 2008, 12:26

I guess i'll have to wait on my rogue :P I couldn't find the npc's :ashamed2:

haha :)

EPIXX!!!!

Kaira

25th June 2008, 12:29

I guess i'll have to wait on my rogue :P I couldn't find the npc's :ashamed2:

hahahahhaha

Nynawe

25th June 2008, 12:55

I guess i'll have to wait on my rogue :P I couldn't find the npc's :ashamed2:

Gogo raid ! :D:wizard:

Asquad

25th June 2008, 12:58

that prob i got ot

baycee

25th June 2008, 13:37

Tee

25th June 2008, 13:39

Too bad they did this 4 seasons later. This should have been from S1.

Putin

25th June 2008, 14:13

i don't think it's stupid at all. it drives me crazy seeing ppl with 1100 rated teams in nrly full vengeful and full vindicator -.-, people that can't play shouldn't deserve to get rewarded.
I don't agree.

What difference does it make to you that those 1100 rated are in full gladiador? They are still noobs, and those that are not will still defeat them, regardless of gear.

And you will not be facing them anyway.

Aever

25th June 2008, 14:46

Putin

25th June 2008, 15:09

The ideea is that you used to be able to take great gear from arenas w/o any skill/effort. That's prety much the dumbest idea blizzard ever had. Period.

Now you need to win in able to get your stuff. You need to PROVE yourself in order to use those items.
Use those items for what?

PVE? Sure, there are a few items that are good for PVE. But most of them aren't. Too much item budget spent on resilience. You don't raid in full arena gear.

PVP? Those that have skill are not facing those that don't. If you have 1800 rating it doesn't matter what gear those at 1400 are using.

Showing around in Shat? Who the hell cares? I fly in a Cenarion War Hippogryph. I never see anyone else with one. I'm unique. And who the hell cares?

You know what this changes are going to cause? They are going to lower the overall arena ratings for everyone.

Once the <1500 rating guys notice that they will never improve their gear, they stop playing arena. Guess what happens to everyone's rating.

Pintea

25th June 2008, 15:24

Actually I fail to see how the <1500 stop playing will effect the 1800+ rating:)
It may effect the titles at the and of the season but thats about it:)

Felkin

25th June 2008, 18:49

S4 might just be the reason for me to stop playing until WotLK comes out....

That gear is too imba....

I don't like playing arena, not do I enjoy grinding AV/AB/WSG/EoS for honor to get the lesser PvP stuff.
So, for me, all that stuff is out of reach and similar PvE gear is also near impossible to get.

Facing someone in all that gladiator gear isn't fun if you got 0 PvP gear yourself. Guess I should've rolled on a PvE server after all.

Ok Tee, bring on the care bear comment.

Tee

25th June 2008, 19:08

Facing someone in all that gladiator gear isn't fun if you got 0 PvP gear yourself. Guess I should've rolled on a PvE server after all.

Battlegrounds have same rules on PvP / PvE servers.

Ok Tee, bring on the care bear comment.

<3 carebears :)

Aever

26th June 2008, 07:31

@Putin

I hate arenas, so I don't give a rat's ass about ratings or arena games. If arena gear could only be used in arenas you wouldn't see me complain. What annoys me is ppl decked in arena stuff destroying the battle grounds, the last place where PvP is (or has a chance to be) fun.

Pintea

26th June 2008, 08:12

Aever

26th June 2008, 08:20

B/c you go on and "pwn" undergeared ppl?

Lobie

26th June 2008, 08:20

I think the are destroying wow for casual player 's like me.

Firts , you need to be verry actief and being in a good actief guild if you like to see some other instance then only karazan , now i need to find a pvp group where i can get a lot of rating point to get someting. and playing arena al the time.

At this point i dont have the time for this al, but i do like to play wow, only not hardcore

So i agree with felkin.

And someting else, with 1400 rating i takes weeks to get a item, isnt that enough effort waiting weeks till you get someting?

Where are the old good day's :(

Aever

26th June 2008, 08:23

True about PvE.

Wasting time means 10 games/week. That's ... 1, maybe 2 hours/week, and you don't even have to win. Yes, win and get items faster, but even if you lose you are guaranteed to get items. It's free epics, plain and simple. For me, I attend 4 raid / week, at 3.5 hours each. During these I have to know and implement tactics, heal my ass off and winning is a must. If we lose we get repair bills, not epics. If we win there is a chance for an usable item to drop, item which is disputed between more ppl usually. If PvP rules would be valid in PvE then the equivalent would be for me to spend 2 hours inside an instance per week for 3 weeks, doing whatever, to get an item.

Before S4 PvP items = only 10 games a week, no requirements
PvE Items = tons of time, gear/gold requirements and skill checks
S4 PvP items = only 10 games a week, skill finally required

There are tons of things for the casual player to do now compared to pre-TBC. There are cafted items that are worth the effort now (if you can't raid), there are badges items that don't require that much time at once, there are BGs, there are the arenas (which are very casual time wise), there are daily quests

baycee

26th June 2008, 09:08

Use those items for what?

PVE? Sure, there are a few items that are good for PVE. But most of them aren't. Too much item budget spent on resilience. You don't raid in full arena gear.

Putin, sorry, but you're wrong. Look at Brunhilda. She still has a few S3 pieces wich honestly pee all over T5. I've spent hours looking at stats and calculating dps increases, and S3 > T5 in most cases for hunters. Imagine how S4 will be. I wouldnt be surprised to see people raiding in S4. Because it is easier to get then paying dkp and waiting for a drop.

Turbo

26th June 2008, 09:15

Putin, sorry, but you're wrong. Look at Brunhilda. She still has a few S3 pieces wich honestly pee all over T5. I've spent hours looking at stats and calculating dps increases, and S3 > T5 in most cases for hunters. Imagine how S4 will be. I wouldnt be surprised to see people raiding in S4. Because it is easier to get then paying dkp and waiting for a drop.

brun you are wrong, S4 gear is the equivalent for sunwell drop in pve......and u can't make a compare there.....

don;t think about us or kara raiding guilds....think about the good guilds that raid sunwell, when PvE-ers got sunwell was normal for the pvp-ers to get S4...looks fair enough for me

and if u think about fairness in pvp/pve i want to remember you that the best pvp rind drops in ZA ar 3'th event....and pvp-ers cursed blizz a lot because of this (and this is not the only example)

Putin

26th June 2008, 10:01

Putin, sorry, but you're wrong. Look at Brunhilda. She still has a few S3 pieces wich honestly pee all over T5. I've spent hours looking at stats and calculating dps increases, and S3 > T5 in most cases for hunters. Imagine how S4 will be. I wouldnt be surprised to see people raiding in S4. Because it is easier to get then paying dkp and waiting for a drop.
S3 is better then T5? So is badge loot. If you want it, you can get all the badge gear faster then all the PVP gear.

So what? You should only be allowed to get badge loot if you are exalted with the MH faction?

And I said, "a few". Maybe Hunters are a simple class that is easy to play. /joke (or not :))

But the other classes need different stats for raiding. Would a priest raid in gladiator gear? Would a mage? Probably not.

I know that if I was raiding and saw a warlock in full gladiator, I would kick him, because he doesn't know how to play his class.

Nakoda

26th June 2008, 15:28

putin, alot of the melee classes S4 is very good, with the introduction to hit rating on the rogue stuff it makes it more then viable, the enhance stuff has shit loads of stats, resilience is just the cherry on the top ^^. Even the healer gear is stacking mana/5 aswell and healing and resilience, i havn't compared them but i wouldn't be surprised if they were as good as t5 healing items, i dunno about casters, for all classes though, the weapons own badly. S3 weapons were best in game for enhance shammies, i think S4 weapons will be as good as KJ fist weapon :)

Asquad

26th June 2008, 15:33

Pff at the guys that got 1700rating already, and most people still stuck round 1500~~

PS: NAK SEE MY SIG!

Robje

26th June 2008, 17:14

I wish I could play ffs, damn 3k+ latency and disconnects... 1700 should be a breeze and I cant play QQ

Holycola

27th June 2008, 01:49

S4 is most unbalanced shit so far .

gearing for 100h and cant get past 1500 XD damn im pro

Pintea

27th June 2008, 07:12

I wish I could play ffs, damn 3k+ latency and disconnects... 1700 should be a breeze and I cant play QQ

I wish you could play too:P

Aever

27th June 2008, 08:07

Brutal Gladiator's Ornamented Headcover
+71 Stamina
+40 Intellect
Meta Socket
Red Socket
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 32 (1.45% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 32 (0.81% @ L70).
Equip: Increases healing done by up to 88 and damage done by up to 30 for all magical spells and effects.

Crystalforge Greathelm
+37 Stamina
+28 Intellect
Yellow Socket
Meta Socket
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 24 (1.09% @ L70).
Equip: Increases healing done by up to 103 and damage done by up to 35 for all magical spells and effects.
Equip: Restores 10 mana per 5 sec.

Lightbringer Greathelm
+42 Stamina
+37 Intellect
Yellow Socket
Meta Socket
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 36 (1.63% @ L70).
Equip: Increases healing done by up to 119 and damage done by up to 40 for all magical spells and effects.

This is S4 helm vs T5 and T6 helms. S4 has more crit/int over T5, but less healing. T6 is (thx god) superior to S4 all around. Same seems to be valid for the entire set, S4 has more crit, but less healing over T5. So, I wouldn't replace T5 with S4, but that's just me. Others might find a few pieces of S4 good to augment their gear untill T6. If you have T6 then S4 is shard material.