Gladiator rewards for 50% of server - proof of Blizzard retardness (again)

[Allora]

Discuss.

[baycee]

www.zenedar.com -----> that way

[Putin]

I didn't get it. :(

Then again, maybe that's because I never set foot in an arena. :)

[Tee]

www.zenedar.com -----> that way

Carebears forums ------> that way

[Tee]

Blue post:


To recap the issue: after the maintenance, patch release, and end of season 1, it became apparent that not all teams that were intended to receive their Gladiator title and Armoured Nether Drake did in fact receive them. Instead the rewards seemed to be sent to some teams while others only received lower ranking titles.

At this time it only appears to have affected select realms. Since then we’ve been able to determine that the issue was specifically an error in rewarding teams appropriately. We’re currently in the process of testing a fix, using data recorded from when the realms were brought down for maintenance to determine if this fix will correct the issue.

We're waiting for the fix to be tested before discussing how the issue will be resolved as we simply don't know what the best available course of action we can take is until we have a working solution.

We’ll be providing further updates in this thread as we’re able.

Edit: Since it's apparently not clear that we are looking into all issues regarding the nether drake I'll clarify it here: we are investigating if there are to few or too many nether drakes sent out.

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=299060086&sid=1

[Boldar]

What ya mean Al?

[Madavaster]

well they screwed up in US with chosing the teams that qualified to the semi finals or something earlier wasn't it ? seems like they got a huge problem with working with the arena ratings data. don't think they will remove the drakes now cause once you award someone with something its a sin to take it away :)

[surreality]

hope you are right , madavaster ..was kinda happy yesterday ..will not be really happy when they take it away.

[Evilution]

Mada is correct, I really doubt blizzard would take them away.

The only thing they are going to do is give all the players a mount who should of had one in the first place.

[Holycola]

Anything I have gets nerfed/removed

I have dragon now=there must be some way it gets taken away from me...hey its blizzard and their *screw up* :P

sorry surreality..you know what will happen to stuff I touch...only way to confort you is to say that you are imba :)

[Belwar]

All who have got mounts log off ure chars on your mounts they cant remove them then =)

[Tee]

Blizz post:


We've been able to identify and develop a solution to the issue of some teams receiving the incorrect end-of-season Arena rewards. We're going to be resolving this by performing a two hour maintenance tonight, beginning at 5:00 AM PDT, June 22, and lasting until approximately 7:00 AM PDT.

During this maintenance all of the end-of-season rewards will be resent to the correct teams and players. By resending the rewards players who already have an Armored Nether Drake will simply receive duplicates. As these are unique items the new mail messages can only be deleted. The Arena titles will also be applied again, and players will have the correct title available to them after the maintenance.

We appreciate everyone's patience in awaiting this resolution, and apologize for any inconvenience or frustration that it may have caused.

[Esk]

longsword said we still have teh mounts! so it's all good

[surreality]

5:00 AM PDT, June 22 ...dont know but i think it still has to happen .. but i never was good with times. .

seems like a american fixs to me ..
on euro boards i see this

`Update 22/06 11:22:
Whereas we have no specific information to share at this moment, a solution has been found to try and resolve this issue as well and fairly as possible. We’re discussing some final points and expect to provide you with some information later today. `

wich has just been posted. atm i think we can only pray for the best .

[Tee]

I think Europe is not "bugged", and the patch was for US servers.
Nevertheless I would really like to see the rules they used to give ranks and drakes.

[Turbo]

there will be no fun to have the drake if 50% of the server has it.....

[Tee]

there will be no fun to have the drake if 50% of the server has it.....

Already 50% of the server has it.. You just need to collect some dragon eggs in Shadowmoon Valley. As a side note, I found more challenging to be in 10-15% of arena teams in order to get a drake (what happend at this time) instead of being a Chinese in Shadowmoon Valley.

My big issue is about the ranks, not the drake.

And I would like to know the rules they used. So far it seams is something like:

First 10% - Gladiator
First 20% - Duelist
First 30% - Challenger
First 50% - Rival

And both Gladiator and Duelist got Drake.

This is pretty different then what they posted before end of Season 1

% - .5%: Gladiator (and Armored Nether Drake sent in mail)
.5% - 3%: Duelist
3% - 10%: Rival
10% - 35%: Challenger

[Tee]

IMO, fix the damn ranks, so they actually represent something and give the fucking drakes to first 20-30% of arena contenders so everyone will be happy they fought for 5 months in arena (which actually is more challenging and time consuming then gathering eggs in Shadowmoon Valley).

Giving this kind of "nice" rewards for a large mass of people is good that people will be motivated to join Arena in future. If you will keep the best rewards to only a small amount of people, arena will lose people (instead of attracting more) and in the end will die.

[Madavaster]

wise words

[Felkin]

Except for
As a side note, I found more challenging to be in 10-15% of arena teams in order to get a drake (what happend at this time) instead of being a Chinese in Shadowmoon Valley.
Which is bullshit, both require a form of farming. And the way certain groups got those PvP drakes, I'd say the Netherwing Drakes are the REAL rewards for effort.

[Evilution]

You sound like a jealous carebear felkin ;)

j/k mate, dont take that offensively

[Putin]

You sound like a jealous carebear felkin ;)
He is.

But I agree with him. Farming is farming.

Some people enjoy PVE farming, and some others enjoy PVP farming.

[Belwar]

Not exactly sure what you mean by Arena farming, or did you mean honor farming, if Arena is just farming then you wont have any problem getting over 2100 rating will you, until then comments about arena being farming are funny. Now on the other hand how you get PVP honor is farming. Still it is easy for people who never got a a high rating to think arena is farming.

If your saying, well anyone can get Arena gear, that is true, over a certain period of time, but not anyone can get a high rating, and it is still only a small percent that do get a high rating, compared to the amount of teams that are out there.

Overall I think The titles should be corrected, and maybe they shud revert the drakes back to 0.5 % instead of whatever it is right now, and perhaps they shud make it 10% for season 2 to give as Tee said motivation for more people to participate in Arena.

But I guess we will see soon enough what Blizzard will do.

[Tee]

Ranks and drakes were fixed as in original patch notes.

% - .5%: Gladiator (and Armored Nether Drake sent in mail)
.5% - 3%: Duelist
3% - 10%: Rival
10% - 35%: Challenger

[Felkin]

Belwar, the very definition of farming is to repeat the same (set of) action(s) over and over.
Doing Arena's x times per day, x times per week, still is farming. No matter how you look at it.
You keep battleing opponents in 3-4 different arena's time and again for a period of time, I repeated several quests time and again, for aprox. 3 weeks.

Atleast you agree that too many teams got the supposedly "rare" armored drake. It's not rare now.

Btw, I'm not being carebear, it's called common sense. Blizzard always claimed the armored drake would be rare and only for the top teams; well, if with that they meant the top 15-20% teams, it's not very rare now, is it? :P

[Madavaster]

Felkin u behave like a tard now seriously. Playing in a football league is FARMING then ? Cause thats what arena is about playing more games doesnt give u almost anything if other ppl just play 10 weekly and win them all. There is no farming required and the 10 games is like each round of league's games in a season. Dont come up with some crap on topics you dont understand really.

The drakes are rare now and it was blizz god damn fukup not ppl's that received it and got it taken back. Somehow they were still in top 5 % of the battlegroup and not 50 % of the server how jealous gays who don;t dare to step their foot in arena always claimed for those 2 days full of jealosy n whining.

[Felkin]

Retarded? We're talking about a game here, not real life.
You FARM arena so you'll have a high rating. period.

I never said it was the ppl's mistake, you're completely missing the point.

[Belwar]

Again I think you are using the term 'farm' in the wrong context as it does not apply to Arena. You are not repeating the exact same actions over and over again, as Madavaster said you are playing different teams, setups, strategies, just as if you were playing a football match. And yes a team could well only play 10 games per week and win them all cause of their good team work and execution, so this is in no way farming. Just because something is being repeated, doesn't make it farming, the conext that you use it with is incorrect.

Arena is not farming, you don't FARM arena, you compete in a ladder, playing various opponents with dofferent skils, and always needing a differet set of action each game.

[Madavaster]

cause some ppl play it over n over again and are way below starting rating. and this is not leading far. arena is 1st more or less good move by blizz for a long time resembling Warcraft 3 Ladder competition. failure has its cost

[Nakoda]

definition of farming...


1. the business of operating a farm.
2. the practice of letting or leasing taxes, revenue, etc., for collection.

i'm afraid you'reall wrong... :P

[Meaphly]

arena slackers sux - go buy skillz rather getting dressed like asswipes per week pah... bring teh old pvp system back on and that my friend separates the man from the nolifer.

[Allora]

Apparently, the EU was fixed also. Partly. They took away the netherdrakes and gave them only to the top 0.5% teams, as intended. However, anyone wearing his title at the time of the patch, got to keep his 1800 rating gladiator title.

As personal oppinion: armored netherdrakes were supposed to be a cool reward for the top 0.5% ranked teams. To get a 5v5 team to 2300+ is VERY hard work, and the competition is really high. At least that's how we felt it. By letting now 50% of the server have the same reward like me I would have felt screwed up, so I entirely support Blizzard with this sollution. I also hope they fix the titles soon, but in terms of the "cool factor" the netherdrake > the title.

[Allora]

www.zenedar.com -----> that way

Sorry I wasn't looking for the "ZOMG WE KIELED BOSS 7 IN INSTANCE 14!!111" thread. This post concernes a PvP problem on a PvP forum.

[Allora]

Belwar, the very definition of farming is to repeat the same (set of) action(s) over and over.
Doing Arena's x times per day, x times per week, still is farming. No matter how you look at it.
You keep battleing opponents in 3-4 different arena's time and again for a period of time, I repeated several quests time and again, for aprox. 3 weeks.

Atleast you agree that too many teams got the supposedly "rare" armored drake. It's not rare now.

Btw, I'm not being carebear, it's called common sense. Blizzard always claimed the armored drake would be rare and only for the top teams; well, if with that they meant the top 15-20% teams, it's not very rare now, is it? :P

You fail.

It would be farming if the enemy did the same thing each time.

[Allora]

arena slackers sux - go buy skillz rather getting dressed like asswipes per week pah... bring teh old pvp system back on and that my friend separates the man from the nolifer.

Apparently that was fixed as well by giving a very small point gain to teams under 1500 rating.

[Felkin]

I understand, you PvP'ing people are just in denial.
It's ok, one day you'll realise that you are in fact farming and that I was right.
So whatever you say to me now, it's ok, I know what it's like to be in denial.

[Allora]

I understand, you PvP'ing people are just in denial.
It's ok, one day you'll realise that you are in fact farming and that I was right.
So whatever you say to me now, it's ok, I know what it's like to be in denial.

k

[baycee]

Discuss.

Actually, i was referring to this jewel of a post. :)

[Allora]

Actually, i was referring to this jewel of a post. :)

You fail :)

[Razyel]

is Allora postcounting? o.O

[Allora]

No

[Razyel]

No

o'rly?

[Allora]

Hmm... u might be right.

[Razyel]

Hmm... u might be right.

i knew it :P

[Allora]

:P

[Nakoda]

says razyel who has done about 20 trolling posts in the past hour... :P

[Razyel]

says razyel who has done about 20 trolling posts in the past hour... :P

stfu i dinged 601 posts